Sramana: What kind of companies tend to be good partners? Flint Lane: We tried going through accountants in the beginning, and what we discovered was that accountant drove payroll business because they did not want to do it themselves. The best partners for us are the accounting software companies. These are the companies between QuickBooks
Sramana: When you were doing that validation, who were some of the customers you talked to? Flint Lane: We targeted smaller companies in the beginning. That was a mistake. Yes, the problem existed for them. However, they were not willing to pay for it because it was not that big. If they had 50 invoices
Sramana: When you started PayTrust, the Internet was not as pervasive and consumers were not as mature as they are today. Flint Lane: That is absolutely true. There was not as widespread acceptance of financial services online. It was 1998, so the Internet was out there. There was a lot of noise about it, but
If you haven’t already, please study our Bootstrapping Course and Investor Introductions page. Flint Lane is a serial entrepreneur and the founder and CEO of Billtrust, a company offering B2C and B2B billing services. Billtrust has earned numerous awards from business organizations, including the Deloitte Technology Fast 500 and Inc. 500. Prior to founding Billtrust, he was the founder
Sramana: Where do you see AVG going from here? J.R. Smith: Moving forward, we have to figure out how to increase monetization of our users without charging them a dime. Our mantra is to ensure everyone is protected, paid user or free users. The more we move toward indirect monetization, the more we will be
Sramana: What does the competitive landscape look like for you? J.R. Smith: Competition is pretty vast for us. By giving away our products and figuring out how to cross-sell and upsell, we have grown our customer base to 106 million active users. When you get 100 million users, that changes the business model. We are
Sramana: How was traffic being driven to the AVG website? J.R. Smith: It was mostly coming from the web as organic traffic. There were so many affiliates and partners giving away the software on their websites that Google had listed AVG as one of the top search results for the term “free antivirus.” It was
Sramana: What did you do after you Dot Mobile? J.R. Smith: As I was leaving Dot, I had heard that a firm I knew had purchased a small antivirus company called AVG out of the Czech Republic. It was a company that was doing tens of millions of dollars in revenue and had a nice