Sramana Mitra: One of the options that we have to keep in mind is that the vast majority of strategic acquisitions happen in the $50 million to $60 million price point. For everybody concerned about making money with a $50 million exit, you have to build the company in that $5 million to $10 million capitalization.
George Spencer: That’s right. The goal here is not to sell the company for $50 million to $60 million. If that’s what ends up happening, you end up making three or four times your money, so be it. Just getting yourself to the position where you’re able to do that is important. I think that you need to be very capital efficient and conscious of that. To be honest with you, I don’t think that happens all that much out in the Valley. >>>
Sramana Mitra: Your point is very well-taken. In the early stage, not everything is figured out. There is a certain amount of pivoting that goes on often in the quest for that repeatable sweet spot. Capital markets change and competitive markets change. You just have to adapt.
With that understanding though, I want to ask you a slightly different question. We are in the beginning of 2019. Lots of stuff have already been built. It’s not like there are so many wide open opportunities out there to build these massive unicorns. There are some and there are categories where people are pursuing that kind of opportunities. There are also many niche opportunities. Some of these businesses need to be built for small amounts of capital – $1 million to $2 million – and then sold for $10 million to $15 million. Do you have appetite for this type of investments? >>>
Susan Stone, Founder and Managing Partner at Sierra Wasatch Capital, discusses their investment thesis around Media Technology.
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Sramana Mitra: Within B2B SaaS, do you have a preference between selling to enterprises versus selling to small businesses?
George Spencer: I’ve invested in the past in both and made money on both. My diligence is understanding how you’re going to be able to build a distribution channel based on the price points that you’re able to sell your software for. I’ve worked with SPS Commerce that was selling outbound telemarketing salesforce. I can work with both small businesses that make $100 a month per customer all the way to companies taking in $5 million a year from some customers.
Sramana Mitra: Across the companies that you have invested in both from this fund as well as your general experience, can you share a few examples and give us a flavor of when you went into the deal, what did you see? What is it that made you decide to invest in this particular set of companies? Give us some case studies so we understand how you think about investments. >>>
Jason Cahill is Managing Partner at McCune Capital, a NY-based firm. He talks about the pros and cons of chasing Unicorns, as well as his firm’s investment philosophy.
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Responding to a popular request, we are now sharing transcripts of our investor podcast interviews in this new series. The following interview with George Spencer was recorded in January 2019.
George invests in SaaS companies mostly in the Midwest from a small fund out of Chicago. The interview contains an excellent discussion on ideal levels of capitalization for good exit prices. >>>
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During this week’s roundtable, we had as our guest Ondrej Bartos, General Partner at Credo Ventures based in Prague, focused on investing in Central European startups. Their major success story is UiPath in robotics process automation that has raised $265 million at a $3 billion valuation. UiPath has over 2,100 customers and claims to have annual revenues of $150 million. We discuss the Romanian company in some detail.
WellWrap
As for the pitches, first up, we had Abi Kariguiddaiah, a 1Mby1M Premium member from Danville, California, pitch WellWrap.
SharesInside
Next, we had Dave Hannam from Zurich, Switzerland, pitch SharesInside, a company that is currently at a $1M ARR level.