Sramana Mitra: Talk a little bit about this company that you invested in from the Freshworks ecosystem. Is it built on the Freshworks stack?
Bhaskar Ghosh: The founders are second-time founders. Their first company, Rocketlane, was acquired by Freshworks. I just want to call something out. We are huge fans of the entrepreneur ecosystem coming out of Freshworks and Zoho, which have revolutionized the B2B SaaS ecosystem of India.
>>>Sramana Mitra: Let’s focus on the pre-seed and seed first. Are you investing in concepts? Are you looking for a certain amount of proof point? What is the sweet spot?
Bhaskar Ghosh: If you look at founders, products, and market, we focus heavily on the founder and on the market size. We are not looking for product-market fit. We are not even looking for a product. We tend to gel closely with highly technical entrepreneurs. There is bimodal DNA there. We do back first-time entrepreneurs coming out of schools. We have a very strong campus program at Yale, Caltech, MIT, Harvard, and Stanford. We tend to back founders out of these campuses fairly heavily.
>>>Bhaskar Ghosh, Partner and CTO at 8VC, discusses his firm’s investment thesis, and we have an interesting discussion about the definition of a “good” entrepreneur.
>>>Giuseppe Donvito: I can mention several exits just in our portfolio. In some, they were successful exits. What I found very interesting is, as a VC, you always need to be clever to find the right time. This is key. Otherwise, it is easy to say you’ll keep the company for 10 years.
In our case, we were able to find the right moments. In some cases, if we don’t sell the company at a particular time, the company wouldn’t exist because of other reasons. The exit is evolving. There will be more and more in the coming years.
>>>Giuseppe Donvito: When we analyze a company, we always apply our proprietary framework. We are obsessed with the quality of the founding and management team. This is the main point for us. We thought the management team could be the right people for this kind of deal.
At the same time, given our knowledge of the FinTech sector, we thought that the company had significant improvement for growth. They’re one of the largest in Europe in embedded finance. They were always able to navigate the ups and downs. It can’t always be positive. The founding team built a resilient top management team. Even in difficult times, they were able to find the solution. They proved to be resilient.
>>>Sramana Mitra: Firstly, what is the size of your deal flow? How many deals do you see?
Giuseppe Donvito: When we started, we used to do a mix of post-seed and early stage. We used to see a thousand companies per year, out of which, our investment rate was 5% per year. Now that we’ve moved to a more later stage, we see probably 500 deals a year and we do only 1%. In those typical stats, we don’t explore 50% and the other half we do some analysis.
>>>Giuseppe Donvito is Partner at P101 Ventures based in Milan. We have a wonderful conversation about Italian startups.
Sramana Mitra: Let’s start by introducing our audience to you and get acquainted ourselves as well.
Giuseppe Donvito: I’m a Partner at P101. I’ve been in the venture capital and private equity industry for more than 20 years. I have a Masters in Telecommunications Engineering, an MBA, and completed an advanced executive course at Northwestern University at Chicago.
>>>Julien Pham is Founder and Managing Director at Third Culture Capital (3CC), a firm focused on investing in the healthcare space.
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