Scaling a Cloud-Based Disaster Recovery Business in Silicon Valley: Axcient CEO Justin Moore (Part 4)

Sramana Mitra: We’re now in 2006?

Justin Moore: Yes.

Sramana Mitra: What did you do next?

Justin Moore: We started thinking conceptually about Ancient in 2006 and started investing seriously in 2007 and all of 2008. I took a bit of time quite frankly. I moved from the Peninsula up to San Francisco. I was a city boy. Then I was in the Peninsula, just working all the time. I moved to the city and got back to things I was interested in. >>>

Scaling a Cloud-Based Disaster Recovery Business in Silicon Valley: Axcient CEO Justin Moore (Part 3)

Sramana Mitra: You bootstrapped?

Justin Moore: Yes, we convinced the original equipment manufacturers to give us engineers. The logic I used with them was, “You’re not going to get your maintenance renewals on the equipment that you sold. That’s some of your highest margins. If we can get this deployed and get your full renewal and maintenance contracts, that’s meaningful money for you.

There are two choices. You can either work with me by giving me some of your engineers and some of your network architects, or given that I have exclusive rights, I can just start taking out advertisements in the New York Times or Wall Street Journal and flood the market with a billion to a billion and half of un-deployed infrastructure.” Of course, they didn’t want that to happen. We bootstrapped because we didn’t even have to pay the 20 contractors and consultants that we had. >>>

Scaling a Cloud-Based Disaster Recovery Business in Silicon Valley: Axcient CEO Justin Moore (Part 2)

Sramana Mitra: How long did you persist in your first effort?

Justin Moore: It was probably about a year and a half. While I was at school, it started consuming more and more of my time. Instead of doing homework, I was working on a company. That was when I decided to stop.

Sramana Mitra: You returned to Stanford in 2005?

Justin Moore: No, that would have been 2001.

Sramana Mitra: How long did you continue at Stanford before reengaging with entrepreneurship? >>>

Scaling a Cloud-Based Disaster Recovery Business in Silicon Valley: Axcient CEO Justin Moore (Part 1)

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Justin tried his hand in other businesses and never had the time to go back and finish his degree at Stanford. He learnt business on the job. Today, he has a thriving Disaster Recovery Cloud venture, for which he has raised over $60 million. The company has not IPO’d or exited yet. Instead, it is moving upmarket from its SME customer roots.

Sramana Mitra: Let’s start at the very beginning of your story. Where are you from? Where were you born and raised? What is your backstory?

Justin Moore: I was born and raised in Manhattan. I moved to London when I was in my early to mid teens and then came out to California for college. >>>

Winning Against Heavily-Funded Competitors: Al Lalani, CEO of Social Annex (Part 5)

Sramana Mitra: You managed to get to $5 million in what time frame?

Al Lalani: We’re past that stage now, but it took us about two to three years.

Sramana Mitra: Who else in the competitive landscape was really giving you a hard time in deals in particular?

Al Lalani: We were getting hit by the individual vertical competitors. In the loyalty space, there were three of them. In the referrals space, there were two or three that we normally compete against. The market is still frothy but it’s starting to taper off. I believe in the next 12 to 18 months, most of these will really taper off because they haven’t been able to sustain what they raised. Our value proposition was the platform perspective. That’s the thing we’ve built that’s going to take us over time. >>>

Winning Against Heavily-Funded Competitors: Al Lalani, CEO of Social Annex (Part 4)

Al Lalani: The next phase of growth was primarily to scale some of the traditional SaaS channels. We hired an outbound marketing team to scale the people I hired from college and Craigslist. We created an inbound marketing team to do a lot of content marketing. If you look at our site, we’ve got really good at content marketing and explaining to people its benefits. We focused on inbound marketing and outbound through traditional sales.

Sramana Mitra: What did you encounter in terms of competition in the market?

Al Lalani: Pretty soon, a lot of companies started coming out. It was very different for us. For me, it was always the aspect of loyalty and advocacy. I never looked at it and said, “There should be something here for Facebook as a solution. There should be something here for Instagram as a solution.” Time will tell if this is the right strategy in the long run but we focused on creating this flat platform. >>>

Winning Against Heavily-Funded Competitors: Al Lalani, CEO of Social Annex (Part 3)

Sramana Mitra: How did you acquire customers? What was the pricing model that you were using?

Al Lalani: It was, plain and simple, cold-calling for the most part. It was really focusing on the niche of e-commerce. Within that niche, we focused on the mid-market. These are customers between $2 million to $50 million in online revenue. It was just us presenting it.

The good part was, what we were doing was fairly unique. It was related to something that everyone wanted to hear about. It was related to something that everyone wanted to hear about. It has always been a good and bad thing for us because everything we have and say is exciting. Everyone wants to hear it. The challenging part is that everyone is interested. Converting that interest into actual buying is a challenge. >>>

Winning Against Heavily-Funded Competitors: Al Lalani, CEO of Social Annex (Part 2)

Al Lalani: I had hired a few developers in my first startup. I didn’t know what to do when I was losing money every month. I wasn’t making much on the e-commerce side. A friend of mine said, “I’m in a little bit of a fix. We need to build this site. I have a budget of $100,000, but I need to build it in the next two and a half months.” I said, “I can do that.”

From there, we built a very profitable web development agency. That was the first project that we got. This failure turned into a services business for a little bit. That was good for me personally because it was good money. It wasn’t very gratifying because it wasn’t what I wanted to do. I had always been a product-focused person. I wanted to build something. >>>