Sramana Mitra: What happened with Gokul?
Zain Jaffer: Gokul became a very pivotal figure. When we got into Angel Pad, a lot of people didn’t believe in our idea. It was very disheartening. There must have been at least 10 different advisors who came in and said, “This is never going to work.”
Gokul was the only one who sat down with us and encouraged us to keep on going. Gokul said, “If you’re passionate about this, you can do it.” That meant a lot because Gokul was the industry expert in advertising. His opinion meant more to us.
>>>Sramana Mitra: What year is this happening?
Anthony Minessale: 2002.
Sramana Mitra: What was the competitive landscape like? Were RingCentral and Grasshopper around?
Anthony Minessale: It was right before that. We were alone in the wild when we were doing this.
>>>Zain Jaffer: Just to set the context, Vungle was recently acquired by a private equity group called Blackstone for $780 million all cash. The transactions closed towards the end of 2019.
At that point, we started a company called Vungle and were producing video ads. We didn’t know what to do with these video ads. We were charging $500 to $600 per video ad. It’s basically an agency.
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Anthony is building a very interesting programmable communication platform company that has its roots in Wisconsin.
Sramana Mitra: Let’s start at the very beginning of your journey. Where are you from? Where were you born, raised, and in what kind of background?
>>>Sramana Mitra: What year was that?
Zain Jaffer: That was 2006. I had been highly obsessed with internet startups for the last five years. It’s time for me to really enjoy myself and be a student and not get involved in anything. I needed a bit of a break.
The first few nights, I organized a party. There were too many people in the living room. Let me take these people to a nightclub and take commission. Before you knew it, I was running a party promotion company. I started doing that.
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This is a delightful story of a young entrepreneur duo’s goofy journey to a huge exit!
Sramana Mitra: Let’s start at the very beginning of your journey. Where are you from? Where were you born, raised, and in what kind of background?
>>>Abhinav Asthana: Postman is a complete platform for API development. You can collaborate with hundreds of people on the Postman platform. All of that happened through this continuous learning and shipping process.
Along the way, we have also looked at how to design our pricing models to be very much in line with the value that our customers get. We just announced new plans for a product.
>>>Sramana Mitra: Did you make any moves on the monetization of this half a million users?
Abhinav Asthana: Not really. We used to have an in-app purchase. It used to be for $10 at that time. We eventually made it free. We started the company formally at the end of 2014. We were just monetizing a fraction of the user base. It was just an experiment to see if people would pay for something.
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