Sramana Mitra: Your positioning is to help with data consistency.
Felix Van de Maele: Yes, data consistency, data understanding, and data compliance.
Sramana Mitra: Who is your direct competitor?
Felix Van de Maele: The biggest competitor is really doing nothing. It’s not a replacement sale. What we replace is Excel, SharePoint, and Word. It’s a new category. It’s not really a new problem, but the problem just became too big to handle on an ad hoc basis. As to who we compete with, I’d say the incumbent data management companies like IBM and Informatica are the ones we compete with the most, because they’ve been selling data management platforms for a long time. We don’t say to our prospects that they are competition but we really believe that they are doing something else. >>>
Sramana Mitra: Each of you had worked on this travel startup before, and you had sold this startup. You got a little bit of money and were willing to put some of that money into starting something else as a collective group.
Steve Yi: That’s exactly right. You said it much better and succinctly than I did. One of the things that I fell into the trap of was thinking too hard about trying to find a great idea. Ultimately, we were successful when we decided to focus on the auto insurance lead generation. It was after we decided to keep it simple and focus on an industry that was generally doing well. In our case, we were in Internet advertising, so we wanted to pick an industry where there was a lot of advertising.
The advertising ecosystem in auto insurance was very similar to what we had dealt with in travel. We felt very comfortable with the technology platforms that we had built in the past and our ability to leverage our expertise there to build better advertising platforms tailored to the auto insurance market. Once we knew >>>
Sramana Mitra: What could you do that IBM couldn’t do?
Felix Van de Maele: That goes back to the original story. The authenticity there is in focusing on business people. We always focus on business people. The product is very easy to use, collaborative, and social. We adopted some concepts from Wiki. The user interface was very friendly.
That’s very different from the incumbents who’ve always been selling IT-focused tools where the focus is not on collaboration but on a single developer doing something. That’s a fundamentally different type of product. You could say, “A business glossary is not that complex.” Actually, it’s not an easy problem. The typical software companies that are focusing on data management weren’t used to creating these types of products. >>>
Sramana Mitra: What did you start next?
Steve Yi: I next started a travel advertising company. After I left, it took about a year to iterate. I knew I wanted to have my own company again. I iterated on different ideas and different consulting projects. I, finally, got connected with a couple of people who I used to work with. These are people who I loved working with who had skills that were completely complementary to mine.
The three of us had no overlapping skill set. We started the travel advertising business. We did that for about a year and a half. Then we ultimately sold that company for a relatively modest amount. What it did do is, it gave us seed capital to enable us to really focus for a good six to nine months without having to worry about salaries to start MediaAlpha. >>>
Sramana Mitra: Why did your current VP of Sales join your company? What was it in your company or in what you told him that convinced him to join your company?
Felix Van de Maele: I think that’s a really good question. We were very early. We had no revenues. We had no customers. He thought strategically about the problem and the shift. Ultimately, we ended doing something slightly different. He was adventurous enough to take a big risk. We consider him a co-founder today.
Sramana Mitra: When he came on board, was that still in the first year?
Felix Van de Maele: It was in December of 2009. >>>
,Sramana Mitra: How did you go about starting it?
Felix Van de Maele: I did my Master’s thesis in data integration, which is a well-known problem. I wrote a one-pager saying what I wanted to do. We wanted to raise a seed round and build the product. We were going to do $50 million in five years because that’s what you’re supposed to say. I gave that one-pager to my professor at the university. He said, “Fine. Go ahead.”
We started talking to the technology transfer office at the university which specializes in taking intellectual property and commercializing that. They have investment friends. We started talking to different people, worked the first version of the business plan, and wrote seven more versions. That whole trajectory took about a year. Ultimately, we incorporated in June 2008 and raised our seed round in August 2008. >>>
Sramana Mitra: Do you want to quickly summarize what you attempted in the last two startups?
Steve Yi: My first startup, which was in 2004, was a customizable search toolbar platform that any publisher or website can customize and distribute to their users. The second company was a travel advertising site. It was essentially just an affiliate marketing website focused on the travel space.
Sramana Mitra: The first one didn’t work because there was no monetization model?
Steve Yi: Actually, there was a monetization model. You can monetize it through a deal with Yahoo! or with Google. It didn’t work because we were squarely within the crosshairs of Google who wanted the toolbar market. It was a very important market for them. In terms of getting distribution of their toolbars, >>>
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Sramana Mitra: Let’s start at the very beginning of your personal journey. Where are you from? Where were you born, raised, and in what kind of background?
Felix Van de Maele: I’m from Belgium. I grew up in Ostend, which is a small town at the seaside. I started studying computer science in Brussels at the University of Brussels where I did a Master’s in Computer Science. That was for four years, which I thought was way too short. I really wanted to study abroad so I did another Master’s in Software Engineering where I studied in France for six months and studied for five months in Argentina. >>>