RJ talks thoughtfully about product idea validation in two AI companies, Pattern89 and Backstroke.Backstroke is operating in the cutting edge of Generative AI and delivering clear ROI solving a very specific problem. Sramana Mitra: All right, RJ, let’s start at the very beginning of your journey. Where are you from? Where were you born, raised? What kind
Sramana Mitra: Yes, it is tough. I have a slightly different kind of question as my last set of questions for you. No code, right now is a very attractive terminology in the industry, and part of it is coming from the fact that AI is automating everything, including coding. So no-code, AI-generated software is the future
So I wanna double click down on both of those marketing and go-to-market strategies: Google AdWords and Facebook advertising. So let’s do Google AdWords. Are you trying to do lead generation on no-code platforms? Jeff Kuo: No-code platform is only a tiny portion of our keyword targeting. We target a lot of different types of application
Sramana Mitra: Were US customers adopting your product in 2015? Jeff Kuo: Yes. Sramana Mitra: How were they finding you? What did you do to get found?
Sramana Mitra: In what mode were you using Ragic? In the no-code mode or in the semantic database mode? And who was the client? Was that the IT department that was the client? Jeff Kuo: No, we were working directly for the users. We’re basically like a database or application developing company. We’re were just
Sramana Mitra: But the no-code hypothesis was correct. Jeff Kuo: The hypothesis is pretty much correct, and up to now, it still seems quite correct. But the no-code part is hard to do technically. Not just that, it’s very hard to teach non-technical people to learn how to do this. It is a lot harder
Sramana Mitra: What was the project? What was Ragic and your master’s thesis that you were trying to productize? Jeff Kuo: I was studying semantic web and AI-related subjects. Back then, Semantic Web was quite popular. Ragic came out of Semantic Web to map information data in a graph-based model so that it can be
Businesses are finding unexpected benefits by incorporating Generative AI into their product roadmaps. Ragic has built a $5M ARR no-code platform in the market. A Generative AI front-end is adding unprecedented usability and adoption momentum. Fascinating! Sramana Mitra: Alright, Jeff, let’s go to the very beginning of your journey. Where are you from? Where were