If you haven’t already, please study our free Bootstrapping course and the Investor Introductions page. When we spoke in 2015, Cliff Johnson and his co-founder had bootstrapped Vacasa to scale in the crowded vacation rental space. Vacasa was acquired by Oasis Collections in 2018 and became a publicly traded company in 2021. Sramana Mitra: Let’s
If you haven’t already, please study our free Bootstrapping course and the Investor Introductions page. When we spoke in 2015, Cliff Johnson and his co-founder had bootstrapped Vacasa to scale in the crowded vacation rental space. Vacasa was acquired by Oasis Collections in 2018 and became a publicly traded company in 2021. Sramana Mitra: Let’s
If you haven’t already, please study our free Bootstrapping course and the Investor Introductions page. Vacasa Co-founder Cliff Johnson bootstrapped to scale in the crowded vacation rental space. Read how! Sramana Mitra: Let’s start with the very beginning of your journey. Where were you born, raised, and in what kind of background? Cliff Johnson: I actually
Sramana Mitra: At this point in 2015, what is the capitalization of the company? Have you continued to build it organically or have you taken financing? How did you scale the company? Cliff Johnson: We’ve continued to build organically. We’re happy and profitable right now. That’s a good place to be. We do end up
Sramana Mitra: To net it out, you have about $100 million topline, $50 million gross margin, then about $5 million operating margin, and you’re funneling that profit into growth. Cliff Johnson: That’s a good general way to look at it without getting too specific. Sramana Mitra: I want to switch gears a bit and understand
Sramana Mitra: 35% commission on the rent that you collect and then cleaning fees to cover the cost of housekeeping the properties. Cliff Johnson: Yes, that’s just for cleaning. We have a local operations manager in each market. That person takes care of the properties. They typically have about 20 properties in their portfolio. They
Sramana Mitra: So far, what I’ve gathered is that you pretty much self-financed the business and grew organically. You started in Oregon within a range where you and Eric could service all of the work and gradually built out the service provider network to scale it. Can you talk about the ramp? How many properties
Sramana Mitra: Let’s go back to the beginning. In maybe 2010, how did you get the business off the ground? Did you guys use your own funds? How did you launch the company? Cliff Johnson: We started with funds that Eric had saved in order to launch the business. We started with a relatively modest