
LanguageBird CEO Karyn Koven has built a technology-enabled business that is already over $5M in revenue and sits at the cusp of a tremendous scaling opportunity by leveraging AI. If you are mulling AI startup ideas, this kind of tech-enabled service that is fully optimized with AI could create tremendous value.
Sramana Mitra: All right, Karyn, let’s start at the very beginning. Where are you from? Where were you born and raised? What kind of background?
Karyn Koven: I’m from Los Angeles. I currently live in Los Angeles. I’m a rare Los Angeles native. I was born in Santa Monica, which people visiting here always think is kind of funny. This is where I’ve lived except for college. For undergraduate, I went to the University of Wisconsin in Madison. But LA is my home. California is my home. My family’s here. I grew up here, and obviously I’m in education. I have an EdTech company.

I’m very bullish about market opportunities that are large enough to build sizable businesses but not large enough such that VCs end up funding numerous competing companies. This case study – my interview from 2018 with David Lloyd, Co-founder and CEO of The Intern Group – shows you how a niche player with a $150 million TAM is growing nicely without outside financing.
Sramana Mitra: Let’s start at the very beginning of your journey. Where are you from? Where were you born, raised, and in what kind of background?
David Lloyd: I’m from the UK. I was born in London. I spent the first 22 years of my life in London before spending approximately the last 10 years of my life between London and Latin America.
Sramana Mitra: Is each instructor doing this individually, or have you built AI into your training and systems?
Karyn Koven: Absolutely. Over the past year, we’ve been developing our own platform that integrates all these AI and tech features. It includes scheduling, curriculum customization, evaluation tools, and more. The goal is to bring everything into one platform for a seamless experience.
Sramana Mitra: What kind of revenue level are you operating at right now?
>>>Sramana Mitra: What kind of numbers are we talking about as we go beyond 2015? How many numbers of students, how many instructors, how was the business unfolding?
>>>Sramana Mitra: And what were the numbers? 10 people in the beginning, and then how did that grow?
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You hear about fast growth, bootstrapped AI startups. Here’s a great story about one. Undetectable AI CEO Christian Perry is not very interested in raising Venture Capital.
Sramana Mitra: All right, Christian, let’s start at the very beginning of your journey. Where are you from? Where were you born and raised? What kind of background?
Christian Perry: My name’s Christian Perry. I’ve always been a serial entrepreneur. I started my first company at around nine years old, had my first couple of employees at age 13, and my first exit in my early twenties. Now I’m working on Undetectable AI and TruthScan, my current companies.
Sramana Mitra: Who were these people that you got an audience with?
Karyn Koven: I think it was because I had a background, and it was based on my reputation amongst other counselors and school officials.
Sramana Mitra: They were referring students to you?
>>>Sramana Mitra: Let’s go back to the beginning of LanguageBird. When you were thinking about doing this project, were you already thinking of it as an accredited language school that would serve as supplemental education?
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